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Nurse Ratched
4:04 Mon Aug 14
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Six months or so ago we were supposed to be on the brink of war with Putin (PUTIN!). That fizzled out, just as this will. It's just the press trying to ramp up the drama.
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Bostick Pockets
4:05 Mon Aug 14
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Anti Nowhere League
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Westside
4:12 Mon Aug 14
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Which non-nuclear power has ever been threatened with nukes by USA, Russia, China, UK or France?
Japan, 1945? Or is using nukes, not threatening?
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ironsofcanada
4:13 Mon Aug 14
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Maybe it was just being a kid, but it seems that nuclear war was always coming when I was young. Evil Empire and all.
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CrowleyHammer
4:15 Mon Aug 14
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Dropped from Enola, a city erased, threat of the future displayed
A power unheard of a power unseen
Flash out of nowhere, the sky is burning
At 8:16 AM Tokyo control realized something was wrong
Reports of explosions, destruction and pain
Air raid from hell city gone in a blaze
August in black, B-29's coming back
Prepare for nuclear attack
Warned but did not heed
Prepare for nuclear attack
Extermination
Strike back
Chose not to believe
Another nuclear attack
From the southeast came the second attack, threat of tomorrow unveiled
11:02 on the 9th of August
Over the valley, like ball lightning
The bomb detonates and the land turns to waste, barren for decades to come
The factories burning, the steelworks destroyed
Surrender your war else you'll perish in flames
Second attack, B-29's turning back.
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero
4:16 Mon Aug 14
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OK, smartarse.
Since the first use of nukes 70 years ago demonstrated how devastating they were, and since the consequent foundation of the UN with its permanent nuclear-armed members of the Security Council, which non-nuclear power has been threatened with nukes by USA, China, Russia, UK or France.
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BRANDED
4:19 Mon Aug 14
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The USA didn't need nukes when it bombed NK back to the middle ages dropping more bombs there than it did during the pacific campaign in WW2. Still,they never lost.
I guess NK have every right to protect their position.
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero
4:22 Mon Aug 14
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And if you want to be really pedantic, Japan was never threatened with nukes. They were just nuked.
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero
4:24 Mon Aug 14
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BRANDED 4:19 Mon Aug 14
That would have been even better bait if you'd remembered it was North Vietnam you were talking about, not 'NK'.
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ray winstone
4:26 Mon Aug 14
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It's ok, we've got Trident and Theresa said she'd 'push the button' so we're in the clear.......
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Far Cough
4:26 Mon Aug 14
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Operation Linebacker
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mashed in maryland
4:27 Mon Aug 14
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Did branded really just confuse Korea with Vietnam?
Hahahahaha
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Johnson
4:28 Mon Aug 14
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Quite ray, being prepared to use your deterrent is a much better deterrent to rogue states than admitting they could nuke you and you'd do nothing about it.
Is that what you meant?
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Far Cough
4:29 Mon Aug 14
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It was a LABOUR minister, Ernest Bevin who said and I paraphrase, "we must have the Bomb and it has to have a bloody union jack on it?
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Lertie Button
4:29 Mon Aug 14
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Yes, but the good news is we aren't involved
Let USA and North Korea wipe each other out. Who fucking cares
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Far Cough
4:31 Mon Aug 14
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Full quote and preamble:
That won't do at all .. we've got to have this .. I don't mind for myself, but I don't want any other Foreign Secretary of this country to be talked to or at by a Secretary of State in the United States as I have just had in my discussions with Mr Byrnes. We've got to have this thing over here whatever it costs .. We've got to have the bloody Union Jack on top of it.
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BRANDED
4:32 Mon Aug 14
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For the record, it was the North Koreans, and not the Americans or their South Korean allies, who started the war in June 1950, when they crossed the 38th Parallel and invaded the south. Nevertheless, “What hardly any Americans know or remember,” University of Chicago historian Bruce Cumings writes in his book “The Korean War: A History,” “is that we carpet-bombed the north for three years with next to no concern for civilian casualties.”
How many Americans, for example, are aware of the fact that U.S. planes dropped on the Korean peninsula more bombs — 635,000 tons — and napalm — 32,557 tons — than during the entire Pacific campaign against the Japanese during World War II?
How many Americans know that “over a period of three years or so,” to quote Air Force Gen. Curtis LeMay, head of the Strategic Air Command during the Korean War, “we killed off … 20 percent of the population”?
Twenty. Percent. For a point of comparison, the Nazis exterminated 20 percent of Poland’s pre-World War II population. According to LeMay, “We went over there and fought the war and eventually burned down every town in North Korea.”
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BRANDED
4:36 Mon Aug 14
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How many Americans are familiar with the statements of Secretary of State Dean Rusk or Supreme Court Justice William O. Douglas? Rusk, who was a State Department official in charge of Far Eastern affairs during the Korean War, would later admit that the United States bombed “every brick that was standing on top of another, everything that moved.” American pilots, he noted, “were just bombing the heck out of North Korea.”
Douglas visited Korea in the summer of 1952 and was stunned by the “misery, disease, pain and suffering, starvation” that had been “compounded” by air strikes. U.S. warplanes, having run out of military targets, had bombed farms, dams, factories, and hospitals. “I had seen the war-battered cities of Europe,” the Supreme Court justice confessed, “but I had not seen devastation until I had seen Korea.”
How many Americans have ever come across Gen. Douglas MacArthur’s unhinged plan to win the war against North Korea in just 10 days? MacArthur, who led the United Nations Command during the conflict, wanted to drop “between 30 and 50 atomic bombs … strung across the neck of Manchuria” that would have “spread behind us … a belt of radioactive cobalt.”
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Grumpster
4:37 Mon Aug 14
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I mean Kim is clearly a Herbert, but I don't think he's that thick that he would actually consider doing anything.
He'd have to be Forrest Gump to not realise that the Chinese could make NK extinct pretty sharpish.
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Kestla
4:40 Mon Aug 14
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Well, it's going to happen one day isn't it. Just pray it doesn't happen in any of our life times, cause as much as some don't see this as 'our' problem, we will be well and truly dragged into it.
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BRANDED
4:40 Mon Aug 14
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The Chinese have millions of Koreans in China and do not want to upset any of them to be honest.
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